Comments on: Do postal employees hate their customers?

By: alex

alex — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:12:34 +0000

Wow, Brian you are right. If we get rid of 60% of the revenue, we have to get rid of 60% of the expenses. These large junk mailers, while annoying as they are filling our boxes with…junk that gets immediately recycled, are a necessary evil. If like Mike the Retard says we get “honest” mailers, they won’t have the profit margins to want to stay in business and they too will resort to electronic advertising or bill payment or anything else they can think of.

I came here to do research on a simple college econ project. It’s amazing our mail gets anywhere….they’re all idiots.

By: mike

mike — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:50:30 +0000

Brian,read my statement. We don’t need customers like we have.Their permits should be pulled and in a free market they will be replaced by honest mailers,ones that can abide by the rules instead of screwing the po every chance they get.

By: brian

brian — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:54:37 +0000

Mike and Chris-

You both have strong opinions, but neither of you offer a solution to the problem you say exists. Like I said in my comment to Rambo, if you get rid of 60% of the revenue, you have to get rid of 60% of the expenses. The vast majority of postal expense is employee’s salaries. So getting rid of the big mailers means getting rid of 60% of your fellow employees. Do you really think that’s better than trying to grow the business, the way a normal enterprise would? How is shrinking the post office’s market going to help anyone?

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:05:58 +0000

The price a big mailer pays for 1 piece of mail, doesn’t even cover the cost of mailing it! The Domestic Mail Manual is so outdated that upper management knows this but is unwilling to change it. And why you may ask? Is because these same upper management will be working for these same mailing companies when they retire or resign. Great scam don’t you think? This why we (postal workers) dislike big mailers so much because they are skimming money from 1st class mailers (like me and others). That is why postage goes up, not from workers, but from big mailers. The big mailers also want to consolidate plants so it will leave small businesses in the position to use their services (IE:force them).

It all boils down that the people’s guaranteed service will become the corporation’s guaranteed service. And if people don’t start fighting back for their postal service, maybe our corrupt corporations will change the constitution to read… WE THE CORPORATIONS…

By: mike

mike — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:49:51 +0000

As a former bulk mail tech my problem with direct mailers that I had for so called customers is that most of them are stupid or crooks. there is no way that every mistake made with a mailing, without fail always took money from the usps and put it in their pockets.Not one time while I worked in bmeu did I find a mailing that was over paid.I think this rules out stupid so what does it leave crooks.I don’t think any business needs nor wants customers like that.

By: brian

brian — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:46:55 +0000

Rambo-

It might help if you had some data to back up your argument. Let’s say you’re right, though, that the big mailers are a drain on the PO. So get rid of them- and what are you left with for revenue? $15 billion from single piece mail, $3 billion from Express and Priority, another $4 billion from packages, services and international. That’s $22 billion. The evil “Big Mailers” paid you $33 billion. So are you going to get rid of 60% of the employees when you chuck 60% of the revenue?

By: Jon Rambo

Jon Rambo — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:28:47 +0000

I don’t envy Bill Burrus- he’s in an extremely difficult position, representing the postal workers whose jobs are most at risk from modernization and automation. But demonizing the people who pay his members salaries isn’t going to do him, or them, any good.

You are trying to say that big mailers are paying well enough to be concidered (paying USPS salaries) this is not even close to the truth. The big mailers (thanks to USPS upper management) are a drain on the USPS and provide no profits.
Due to this the USPS management have been trying to hold to the true budget coming in from Foreign mail, Express mail, Priority Mail and First class mail.
The big mailers provide work without profits! In what way does this benefit the works? You are saying workers should get use to doing more work for less money. This is already occurring elsewhere as the country freefalls into depression thanks to the greed at the top, not real business concerns.
We can do without the freeloaders!

p.s. tell you what, how about letting the letting the largest groups you receive money from having their advertising for 60% off! You others writting here can take money cuts to make up the difference.
This is what will happen if the greed trend does not stop your pay will be a target as well and the greed at the top will get it in the end as well, once they ruin the economy.

By: brian

brian — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:30:20 +0000

Changing the law is the kind of thing Burrus ought to be working on- along with coming to some kind of consensus with the other postal stakeholders on postal reform, not grandstanding against the postal services’s customers.

By: concerned

concerned — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:27:42 +0000

go read this it might give a better picture!

http://www.postcom.org/public/2006/burrus.letter.08.06.pdf

By: concerned

concerned — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:40:56 +0000

your said
“Burrus might be better off looking for more lucrative buyout options than trying to protect unnecessary plants”

will you help change the law, as it now stands buyout are not permitted.