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	<title>Comments on: Postal service slashes overtime</title>
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		<title>By: worker</title>
		<link>http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2008/08/12/postal-service-slashes-overtime/comment-page-1/#comment-125956</link>
		<dc:creator>worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patty’s making it up as she goes along. Notice she didn&#039;t answer my question- if you &quot;looked it up on the website&quot;, why can&#039;t you give us the address of the website?

And the minimum PFP increase is 0%, not 5%. My area is currently sitting at an NPA score which would result in a 3.5% increase. The best increase I ever got was a 6.5%, and that was WITH getting rated as exceptional contributor on my personal goals, which only count for 20% of the total.

“That a bonus”? Most people consider bonuses to be one time cash awards. PFP is not a one time cash award. It is a percentage increase in base pay. That is exactly the same thing you get when you get a COLA or step increase. If “that a bonus”, then so is your step increase and COLA. The only difference is that you get yours regardless of how you or your unit perform.

If you think EAS get a better deal with PFP, take it up with your union. You were offered PFP and you declined. If you want PFP, either bargain for it, or apply for an EAS position. Stop complaining about something you claim you don&#039;t want!

Put up or shut up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patty’s making it up as she goes along. Notice she didn&#8217;t answer my question- if you &#8220;looked it up on the website&#8221;, why can&#8217;t you give us the address of the website?</p>
<p>And the minimum PFP increase is 0%, not 5%. My area is currently sitting at an NPA score which would result in a 3.5% increase. The best increase I ever got was a 6.5%, and that was WITH getting rated as exceptional contributor on my personal goals, which only count for 20% of the total.</p>
<p>“That a bonus”? Most people consider bonuses to be one time cash awards. PFP is not a one time cash award. It is a percentage increase in base pay. That is exactly the same thing you get when you get a COLA or step increase. If “that a bonus”, then so is your step increase and COLA. The only difference is that you get yours regardless of how you or your unit perform.</p>
<p>If you think EAS get a better deal with PFP, take it up with your union. You were offered PFP and you declined. If you want PFP, either bargain for it, or apply for an EAS position. Stop complaining about something you claim you don&#8217;t want!</p>
<p>Put up or shut up!</p>
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		<title>By: Postal Patty</title>
		<link>http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2008/08/12/postal-service-slashes-overtime/comment-page-1/#comment-125721</link>
		<dc:creator>Postal Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey JoJo

management gets one raise a year 5-12% for pay for performance, that a bonus.
Craft get 1% and only get a cola depending on the consumer index, which last
time we didn&#039;t get one.  5-12% for doing what???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey JoJo</p>
<p>management gets one raise a year 5-12% for pay for performance, that a bonus.<br />
Craft get 1% and only get a cola depending on the consumer index, which last<br />
time we didn&#8217;t get one.  5-12% for doing what???</p>
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		<title>By: worker</title>
		<link>http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2008/08/12/postal-service-slashes-overtime/comment-page-1/#comment-125719</link>
		<dc:creator>worker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this bonus nonsense. The old EVA system provided bonuses, and even though it was discontinued five or six years ago, some folks just can&#039;t give up on it. The funny thing is that these same people would be up in arms if their increases came in the form of one time bonuses that didn&#039;t increase their base salary.

Managers and supervisors get a percentage increase based on PFP. And most of your PFP score is based on nationwide and district wide performance scores- individual performance counts for very little of it. They don&#039;t get COLA, they don&#039;t get step increases. And they don&#039;t get bonuses. Any employee can be given a moinetary award, and that&#039;s probably what she&#039;s talking about (if there&#039;s any truth to her story in the first place). The vast majority of those awards go to PCES executives, not to EAS managers and supervisors.

So &quot;Patty&quot;- you say you &quot;looked it up on the website&quot;- how come you didn&#039;t provide the link?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this bonus nonsense. The old EVA system provided bonuses, and even though it was discontinued five or six years ago, some folks just can&#8217;t give up on it. The funny thing is that these same people would be up in arms if their increases came in the form of one time bonuses that didn&#8217;t increase their base salary.</p>
<p>Managers and supervisors get a percentage increase based on PFP. And most of your PFP score is based on nationwide and district wide performance scores- individual performance counts for very little of it. They don&#8217;t get COLA, they don&#8217;t get step increases. And they don&#8217;t get bonuses. Any employee can be given a moinetary award, and that&#8217;s probably what she&#8217;s talking about (if there&#8217;s any truth to her story in the first place). The vast majority of those awards go to PCES executives, not to EAS managers and supervisors.</p>
<p>So &#8220;Patty&#8221;- you say you &#8220;looked it up on the website&#8221;- how come you didn&#8217;t provide the link?</p>
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		<title>By: jojo</title>
		<link>http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2008/08/12/postal-service-slashes-overtime/comment-page-1/#comment-125698</link>
		<dc:creator>jojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>postal patty,  mgmt gets 1 pay raise a year, not a &quot;bonus&quot;, based on meeting goals.  Craft employees get a pay raise and 2 &quot;colas&quot; per year just for having a pulse.  Get your facts straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>postal patty,  mgmt gets 1 pay raise a year, not a &#8220;bonus&#8221;, based on meeting goals.  Craft employees get a pay raise and 2 &#8220;colas&#8221; per year just for having a pulse.  Get your facts straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Postal Patty</title>
		<link>http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2008/08/12/postal-service-slashes-overtime/comment-page-1/#comment-125340</link>
		<dc:creator>Postal Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey manager

Yes, you do get bonuses.  I looked it up on the website, pay for performance bonus
is still there.  Maybe you are not a contributor, but each quarter, they have to
tell what they did to be a contributor.  &quot; I saved 4 hours OT!!&quot; and bam they get
their bonus.  My supervisor remodeled her kitchen two years ago with her bonus.
So don&#039;t tell me that you managers don&#039;t get a bonus.  And a kitchen remodel
isn&#039;t cheap!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey manager</p>
<p>Yes, you do get bonuses.  I looked it up on the website, pay for performance bonus<br />
is still there.  Maybe you are not a contributor, but each quarter, they have to<br />
tell what they did to be a contributor.  &#8221; I saved 4 hours OT!!&#8221; and bam they get<br />
their bonus.  My supervisor remodeled her kitchen two years ago with her bonus.<br />
So don&#8217;t tell me that you managers don&#8217;t get a bonus.  And a kitchen remodel<br />
isn&#8217;t cheap!!</p>
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		<title>By: common sense</title>
		<link>http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2008/08/12/postal-service-slashes-overtime/comment-page-1/#comment-124772</link>
		<dc:creator>common sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>costs are salararies and benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>costs are salararies and benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: SA Mailman</title>
		<link>http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2008/08/12/postal-service-slashes-overtime/comment-page-1/#comment-124204</link>
		<dc:creator>SA Mailman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 22:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go, Postal Service, on all of the overtime savings!  Now, let&#039;s lok at the other side of this - how much money is going to be pait out in grievances due to all of the Article 8 violations?  No doubt it will surpass the alleged &quot;savings&quot;.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go, Postal Service, on all of the overtime savings!  Now, let&#8217;s lok at the other side of this &#8211; how much money is going to be pait out in grievances due to all of the Article 8 violations?  No doubt it will surpass the alleged &#8220;savings&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
		<link>http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2008/08/12/postal-service-slashes-overtime/comment-page-1/#comment-124018</link>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>te&#039;ser:

What do you do for a living, and how much are you paid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>te&#8217;ser:</p>
<p>What do you do for a living, and how much are you paid?</p>
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		<title>By: te'ser</title>
		<link>http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2008/08/12/postal-service-slashes-overtime/comment-page-1/#comment-123995</link>
		<dc:creator>te'ser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mail carriers have to be the most overpaid people in the work force when you consider the amount of training needed. There&#039;s no experience required.  A person can start delivering mail with only a few hours training and make about $20. per hour!  Within a month a mail carrier can easily be as proficient as a carrier who&#039;s been doing the same job for 20 years!  In fact they should hire more managers so they can go around and catch all the carriers screwing off during slow days.  Lets be honest: mail carrier positions were given to vets kind of as a reward when they got out of service and no one wants to accuse a vet of screwing off, right?  Not the American way!  Slowly but surely the 21st century is catching up with the postal service and within the next 10 years you will see major changes in the junkmail carrier positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mail carriers have to be the most overpaid people in the work force when you consider the amount of training needed. There&#8217;s no experience required.  A person can start delivering mail with only a few hours training and make about $20. per hour!  Within a month a mail carrier can easily be as proficient as a carrier who&#8217;s been doing the same job for 20 years!  In fact they should hire more managers so they can go around and catch all the carriers screwing off during slow days.  Lets be honest: mail carrier positions were given to vets kind of as a reward when they got out of service and no one wants to accuse a vet of screwing off, right?  Not the American way!  Slowly but surely the 21st century is catching up with the postal service and within the next 10 years you will see major changes in the junkmail carrier positions.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
		<link>http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2008/08/12/postal-service-slashes-overtime/comment-page-1/#comment-123934</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 01:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey senior man, there are 20 people that come up to me every week asking if we&#039;re hiring. You can come on down and let them deliver where you are! I didn&#039;t mean to say anything about what you think is a fair wage...but there are places in the country that the wage that the USPS serves up is a good wage for the area/State, that&#039;s all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey senior man, there are 20 people that come up to me every week asking if we&#8217;re hiring. You can come on down and let them deliver where you are! I didn&#8217;t mean to say anything about what you think is a fair wage&#8230;but there are places in the country that the wage that the USPS serves up is a good wage for the area/State, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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