Big announcement Thursday?
TweetFrom the NAPS member forum (not posted by the official NAPSHQ account, so strictly FWIW):
The USPS has requested that NAPS attend a briefing at 9:00 a.m. on Thursday, March 19th at 9:00 a.m., at USPS Headquarters. It is expected that the USPS will announce the changes that they have been planning; including District consolidations and Plant changes. As soon as information is provided to NAPS the information will be sent out to the Executive Board.
In anticipation of this meeting, there may be an increase in rumors of the expected changes. NAPS Headquarters will disseminate all of the official and accurate information once we receive it from our meeting with the USPS. As soon as the meeting adjourns we will pass the information first through our email network to our regional and area vice presidents and then on to our breaking news section on the NAPS website.
March 16th, 2009 18:02
When the big news is passed down let me know
March 16th, 2009 20:07
maybe the usps board of governors will send potter packing. let’s hope so. he is a symptom of what’s wrong with the usps: fat at the top that needs to be removed! greg
March 16th, 2009 20:39
It is my understanding that the North Reading Facilaty will be closed and combined with another site
March 16th, 2009 20:42
I heard the same rumor, also the managers will have to find a position or leave the Postal Service
March 16th, 2009 21:17
What will happen to the New Orlean Postal Facilities?
March 16th, 2009 21:21
Will they offer another early out with incentives?
dfizer2000@yahoo.com
March 16th, 2009 23:25
YOUR ALL FIRED!!!
March 17th, 2009 00:26
Im sure there will be some big news about plants and offices closing.
March 17th, 2009 06:24
IF you allow this to be a totally managerial issue with NO input from the real workers it will just continue to deteriorate. I’ve herd NOTHING about dumping a ton of the worthless weight in management. MAN! What a $avings there! Things need to be streamlined but they MUST include personnel across the board!
March 17th, 2009 06:26
I agree with greg southpa
March 17th, 2009 07:25
it actually should be you’re…maybe you should be fired also.
March 17th, 2009 14:47
It started back with Carvin’ Marvin Runyon. Asked Sombrotto what he would do. Get rid of/ reassign anyone not touching or working with mail. Runyon’s solution? Added 30,000 managerial positions thus creating the top heaviest group we’ve had. NOW they HAVE to go.
March 17th, 2009 17:52
Yeah plus all the wasted money spent in grievances for obvious violations $40 million MS 47 violation comes to mind There are many others just because they can. Ironic that potter has us running around making sure we turn off lights to save money but this goes unheeded. Mgt to craft ratio way lopsided now compared to private sector. As for Sombratto he had his share of dopey ideas splitting the unions was the dumbest done just for his pocketbook and ego . Crafts paying for it now.
March 17th, 2009 18:03
From the PRC – USPS Annual Tables FY2008:
Dollar value of labor compensation compared to FY2007
Increase of $112.1 million/Postmasters
Increase of $31.6 million/Supervisors
DECREASE of $527.3 million/clerks
Decrease of $91.7 million/mail handlers
Decrease of $171.6 million/ city carriers
Also of interest:
$13.3 million spent for Relocation
$11.2 million spent for Transfer of Household Effects
Fun Fact:
$6.3 million spent on rubber bands
March 17th, 2009 18:06
THINK OUT OF THE BOX! I heard this idea and in my opinion it actually makes some sense:
Take all the civil service employees on the rolls and move them to 80 percent pensions.No credit for saved sick leave and No buyout in cash that HQ says they don’t have.There’s over 100,000 people in all categories left that would qualify and most will go and not with a bad taste in their mouths .If “you” want to be nice you can give those with over 38 years a small cash payment. The PMG has said he needs to cut personnel by that amount roughly.
Then you can consolidate intelligently,cut and combine routes, not lay off anyone, look like “you” actually care and have a future for the young folks that need the job and like the job. You can with that eliminate or combine Areas and Districts and not tick off the politicians and the public. The younger managers and craft who are at a lower pay scale and on FERS
will actually make this a sound investment.
Instead of making dumb comments think about it for a moment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 17th, 2009 19:09
bocaveritus
i can only pray someone with some brains and power reads your post and impliments it…i will be gone before the door hits me in the a%$…are you from boca raton…
March 17th, 2009 20:39
They’re probably going to announce, that the Board of Directors and Potterhead, will be getting huge bonus’s again, because the USPS only lost 3 Billion last year. Because of their great managing skills, the loss could of been 10 Billion. Great Job Potterhead and the Board of Directors.
March 17th, 2009 23:13
an EAS RIF in the works? posted today:
http://www.naps202.org/index.php?news=72
March 18th, 2009 08:54
I totally agree with Bocaveritus. These people with over 35 years cannot even pull their weight and are weighing down the system. I have seen alot of them go on light duty to stay on the payrolls when moved to automation. Then, when they cant handle automation, are given lighter roles which in turn is doing nothing for the post office which is dead weight. They are not gonna leave as long as they can show up and get paid while not doing their real share of work(their bid). Managers are too chicken to say anything about the problem for fear of their own jobs. The problem of light duty people needs to be addressed! These people are weighing the system down and 2/3 of them are not even legit…. Forced retirement for those in the civil service program and addressing the light duty people would fix most of the financial problems as well as looking in to the pay of some of the managers that are overpaid……
March 18th, 2009 15:13
Postmaster General Jack Potter has earned his salary and the incentive pay authorized by the Board of Governors. He is unquestionably one of the most successful individuals to hold that office in the institution’s more than 235-year history. His ability to reduce costs, and eliminate more than 100,000 positions without laying off a single employee or degrading service, is both remarkable and unprecedented.
March 18th, 2009 15:19
You know some of the comments from the others are correct. The psotal serice is going after the limited duty people with a furver unlike that of a shark feeding frenzy. But I think everyone is missing the big picture. Lets not forget that businesses are closing left and right all over this great nation of ours. Yet! We here in the postal service want to sit back and complain about who gets paid what. When in fact, we should be looking for ways of brining in new revenue, cut back on costs, reduce overtime, and thank GOD ABOVE you still have a job.
March 18th, 2009 17:04
I would like to thank Bill Burris and the APWU for one of the best labor agreements I have ever worked under. I thank God for the people in the Union!
March 18th, 2009 20:50
Get real, papa!! “without degrading service” are you nuts?
March 18th, 2009 21:05
Greg,
nice of you to only think of yourself when it comes to who should go & who should stay. Some of us are CSRS and 49 years old. I’ve never been on light or limited duty. Also I have an all walking route. I pull my weight maybe we should get rid of the new FERS employees who can go back to school or find a new carreer. You want to push us out the door 5 or 6 years short of retirement ? Where’s your compassion? I suppose you think we should all go to nursing homes as well! I’ll leave when I earn my retirement and if that means you get laid-off because your to young soooo sorry !!!!!!
March 18th, 2009 21:12
P.S. to Greg, the light-duty folks at our station are those with 8 years or less in service! Maybe you can come inspire some of your young counterparts to get to work we get tired of carrying they’re routes while they continue to get all the easiest work available. You know answering the phones, ordering supplies, taking out a few express mail pieces or taking a senior carriers overtime away on his curb-line route he’s worked 25 or 3o years to get!
March 19th, 2009 11:54
How could you say for us young people to be laid off, we have kids ,there are people 60 and older whose houses should be paid off kids grown and gone. They will not retire let me tell you a few reasons they have said, they do not like there spouses, what would they do, can not figure out the paperwork, they just purchased a brand new house at 60! My generation has to struggle because these old asses have no lifes and are bad with money!
March 19th, 2009 12:53
To Your Mother, Im not knocking your situation. Im knocking the ones that are of the right age that can retire and still get your 80% pay. Why would you work past the date that you can still be paid 80% and not have to work. Do they wanna die in the line of duty? Why not get out and enjoy life while you can and still get paid 80%? I agree with you and what you see of the light duty people as that is what I see as well. Im not trying to push you out the door as you wouldnt qualify by the numbers anyway? Im talking about the ones that are qualified and in the civil service system. I also am not as young as you think. I was hoping to put just 13 more years in qualified or not. Pat yourself on the back, cuz your one of the few legit workers in the force that also earns his paycheck like myself. I know you know the ones I am refering to. You already mentioned them…. But if you are qualified and are in the old system and still hanging around, you did not plan right. And those non legit light duty people who know who they are will continue to get dissed as long as they keep taking advantage of the system……
March 19th, 2009 13:11
Your Mother, I did mention in my first post that I was refering to people with 35 years or more and in the civil service system…. If those people planned right, then the system would work for them the way it was intended too…. If they have to keep working, then they @&!%¥£ up! So in the end the postal service and its system pays for their mistakes. But you only live once and if they want to spend their entire life working rather than getting out and enjoying life, let them be…. There is more to life than just working!!!!
March 19th, 2009 13:15
Kayla and Greg must be rural carriers who just took another hit in their pocketbooks.
I too am CSRS, 49 years old, female, schoolage children living at home and too young to retire. Some of us started at the PO at age 18. I carry my route everyday (park and loop) and how dare you even suggest that we are the “heavies” of the Postal Service. Practically every FERS employee that has come in after me have gone into management because their sorry lazy tails don’t want to get their hand dirty touching mail. All of the light and limited duty employees are FERS in my office and these are young people.
Kayla it sounds like you are going to be excessed or like I said a rural carrier who just got another HUGE chunk of money taken away from you. So girly and you too Greg, this “old” CSRS employee ain’t going nowhere. I have a family to provide for and send to college and my home will be paid off in 7 years. Now you do the math and see if you can do better. Thank you Postal Service.
March 19th, 2009 13:18
All Clerks deserves the bonus BECAUSE Clerk is the one carry out the mails out…Not SDO and MDO..or EAS offices.. Clerks done on the Hardest Physcial Performance and Suffering with Stress without share communicate of how many % of assignments running on DBCS and touching clerks’s jobs also peforming the clerks”s position on DBCS when SDO or MDO pushing on clerks for their own good deed of the productively numbers like SDO or MDO( “quote like they did the job to carry out”) but Clerks did ..leave clerks physcially sore stress and sweating daily basis…For Bonus Clerks should be qualified to getting bonus if clerks meet their producatively% of numnbers to qualified for bonus .. Have u all thought about it??? Share the feedback…AMerican Postal Clerks !!!!
March 19th, 2009 16:55
Let me get this clear… I have no problem at all with the csrs employees who do their share of work(their bid). I am talking of the ones that are of age that qualify who do not do their share of work but just show up to get paid(non-legit light duty or those too old cuz the job has passed them up). I am in my 40′s as well and will see the back door at 55. Never been on light duty and always get my job done. I too thank the postal service for all its done for me but feel there are too many taking advantage of the system….. Its really sad to watch the state of the postal service going down because of the few people who take advantage of the system by not pulling their weight.
March 20th, 2009 01:19
Hey some of us light duty clerks work our asses off. I broke my neck on the job as a carrier and was forced into the clerk craft and put on tour 1 to run DBCS machines and have two dispatches. We hardley get our second break and we have to take our lunches seperatley while the other clerk runs the machine, because supposedly they have no relief. The post office has left me unprotected so your dreams my come true having me laid off with 4 kids raging in ages 8 thruogh 21 who is in college.
March 20th, 2009 10:01
Welcome to the early ’90′s youngsters….
March 20th, 2009 13:18
I thank God I have a union who protects my rights, and reading some of the stuff written confirms my belief that we need Unions in this country or we would ALL be subject to the whims and mercy of who was pissed off about some contrite matter. WE all have rights, WE all have a CBA, WE ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO POLICE THE CONTRACT AND KEEP THE UNIONS STRONG IN THIS COUNTRY. LONG LIVE THE NPMHU!
DIVIDED WE FAIL!!!
March 20th, 2009 13:57
Let me share a very good reason to work after 80%, it is the rule that unlike those in private industry, we cannot earn a Postal pension and draw Social Security. Take a woman 62 or older who draws half her husbands pension under SS. She can have a postal job but can’t get her pension without giving up SS. It is wrong by the way. Does not apply to FedEx and UPS or any private firm. Some people need the extra $1000 or so a month
The new VERA sucks! Few tok it last time and buesiness is worse and TSPs a lot worse. Who are they kidding? Retire with a penalty at 50% with a ruined TSP and what? Starve?
March 20th, 2009 14:29
Agree with your Mother….
Did you read my post? I wasn’t talking about 49 year old working moms. I said 60 + year people that were eligible for SS, the SS supplement, TSP withdraw, and pension. The fact that these employees won’t leave is pathetic. Pathetic is too strong a word… I actually feel sorry for them. Life is way too short to spend your last years working in the post office.
March 20th, 2009 14:38
I wrote to the PMG entitled VERA = Starvation … as follows
Dear Postmaster General.
I cannot believe that you plan to cure the ills of the USPS by starving your middle aged workers, either forcing them by threat of layoff, transfer, etc. To take the new/old VERA or by enticing the less financially educated ones to take a starving wage to retirement.
Most employees I know have had half of their retirement savings wiped out by TSP. OK, they should maybe not have been in the “C” stock fund but if Wall Street fooled all the smart guys on CNBC, they sure got the postal clerks and carriers too! Then those of us with spouses in the world outside have seen our spouses lose jobs, had their wages cut or are deathly afraid for their jobs.
You take a worker 50, 51 or so and he/she has a 60% pension if they started at USPS at age 20. If they take the VERA they give up 10%, a 50% pension and remember many people lived on wages that included overtime and night differential so many will see a pension much less than half their wage. Most long timers make around $50K, so what is that … $25,000 a year IF they worked for you for 30 years, much less if they started in their 30s as many did.. There are no jobs available these days …. It is not fair to push people that way, not fair!
Please Mr Post Master General. Either do not encourage people to retire using threats and tricks or pay some kind of incentive to help the workers live until business conditions and maybe even the stock market recovers.
March 20th, 2009 14:41
Kayla, CSRS employees, most older employees with lots of tenure are CSRS CANNOT GET SS SUPPLEMENTS AND TSP FUNDS WERE CLOBBERED OVER THE PAST YEAR OR SO;
Besides Kayla, some people love their jobs. Some older people, widows without many friends, small families, neighbors all go to work, have ALL their friends at work. They get depressed when they leave their jobs. Make sense?
March 20th, 2009 15:04
whoooooeeeeee
March 20th, 2009 15:05
life is too short
March 20th, 2009 17:22
No it does not. TSP funds should have been in a safer fund at that age. H ow is a society supposed to function when the older people who can not pull their weight refuse to retire? And make way for the next generation of people raising families to support them.
March 20th, 2009 17:31
Also they get all there sick leave. And they have not paid into SS guess they should have been tucking all that extra money [that we don not get] away.
March 20th, 2009 23:00
How is it possible to dedicate one’s life in serving others ..in the end to live in so much fear? I refused to let my present loss of income and uncertainty dictate my will. I will continue to convince my coworker to join the union, and take it upon myself to make a positive difference daily at the workplace. Forward bound people!!!!
March 21st, 2009 14:47
Bob Carroll, you have absolutely nailed it! I have 21 years of service and am 45 years old. Yes, we lost half our retirement through TSP losses, and are forced to work harder and harder for less money. I barely have time for breaks, and the people hired in recent years are complete deadweight. The PTF clerks are lazy and do not care about anything but themselves and their sense of entitlement is mind boggling.
I am twice their age and work circles around them.
We are getting a raw deal, USPS. Dump the dead wood and
smarten up. When we leave in the next 10 years, heaven help the Postal Service. Be grateful for your middle aged employees for we are carrying your asses.
March 22nd, 2009 12:27
I agree the management should be lessened. They treat the employees terrible, take hard workers from your section to work on automation, while the lazy light duty people do nothing ( 90% are fakes ) and you have to kill yourself to get the mail out. When you tell them your problem they YES you to death and do nothing. They walk around with each other and socialize. Most of them have no idea how to supervise. Noone wants to do a good job the way they kill your morale.
March 23rd, 2009 13:04
We should all be thankful we are working…
March 26th, 2009 04:49
ok clyd so lets see,you try to better yourself ,you take a supervisor test 16 weeks, you do all kinds of travel to work in all kinds of offices the training is so intense ,then you become a supervisor you baby sit for children who stand behind a union for every little thing even if they are wrong they play baby games ,they file grievances for stuff they have no way of winning yet in a world where like it or not, you have to produce,one day soon you wont have any unions in the work place and then what becomes of all the children who now will have to produce or lose their jobs.then you find out you might not have a job, because they need to make cuts.my wife was a window clerk ,ran around like a nut job,makes a few more dollars now, and does more work then ever she no longer gets overtime, because she now is management. and you say they walk around doing nothing? that works both ways,carriers slow to get out of the office to deliver the mail, bringing in overtime,is a big money problem,if my wife wasnt there to babysit there would be alot more overtime, which let me tell ya would cripple the postal service as far as money goes ,so to look at the bigger picture everybody needs to do their jobs and be more self conscious of what could happen if they no longer have a job to go to. stop baby games be more productive and work together.
March 26th, 2009 05:13
the post office could make cuts without cutting jobs . 1st.. stop paying outrageous rents… in these little office spaces ,like in the back of a store , consolidate the smaller offices , to government owned space ……….2cnd.. awarding a PRIVATE CONTRACTOR, at outrageous bids to replace door knobs, lights,lawn care ,snow removal ,vehicle repairs ,etc… have a postal maintenance crew that covers 5-6 offices, self sufficient which would save big money. 3RD.. THE USPS RELOCATION PROGRAM LOSING ON THE AVERAGE 58,000 PER HOME ,ON THE 500 PLUS HOMES THEY BOUGHT AND SOLD IN 2008…………..