Comments on: Postmasters to boycott “Voice of the Employee” survey http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/ more from postalnews.com Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:55:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Happy Postal Worker http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-147508 Happy Postal Worker Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:10:12 +0000 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/?p=1717#comment-147508 Yes craft employees get paid whenever they are on the clock but Management gets paid whether on the clock or not. You guys just set up your automatic clock rings and run for the border. Yes craft employees get paid whenever they are on the clock but Management gets paid whether on the clock or not. You guys just set up your automatic clock rings and run for the border.

]]> By: Renne http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-142357 Renne Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:53:16 +0000 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/?p=1717#comment-142357 Why do you guys say bonuses? There is no bonus; PM's do not get cost of living raise like craft does, that was taken away in 1993. There are PM's who haven't had a raise in 2 or 3 years and craft are close to making more than them with less headache. And craft get OT whereas PM don't. So some of you need to get your facts straight before you make your comments. Oh, that's too much right for some of you. Why do you guys say bonuses? There is no bonus; PM’s do not get cost of living raise like craft does, that was taken away in 1993. There are PM’s who haven’t had a raise in 2 or 3 years and craft are close to making more than them with less headache. And craft get OT whereas PM don’t. So some of you need to get your facts straight before you make your comments. Oh, that’s too much right for some of you.

]]> By: kathy m http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-140931 kathy m Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:40:22 +0000 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/?p=1717#comment-140931 pencil pushers......they need to do a minor route adjustment on them.... pencil pushers……they need to do a minor route adjustment on them….

]]> By: postalchic http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-140885 postalchic Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:44:39 +0000 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/?p=1717#comment-140885 oooh someone call the waaaaaaambulance! Finally some justice. You PMS shove the voe down craft throats to get your bonuses. When we dont fill it out u whine somemore. About time u sorry slugs r getting some of it. Quit shorting parcel counts, volumes, and street times to make your quotas. Harassing TE's n PTFs into the ground bringing them lunches so they will work through theirs, intimidating clerks into working faster. S___ flows downhill, so now pms are getting it, the craft will get browbeaten next. oooh someone call the waaaaaaambulance! Finally some justice. You PMS shove the voe down craft throats to get your bonuses. When we dont fill it out u whine somemore.
About time u sorry slugs r getting some of it. Quit shorting parcel counts, volumes, and street times to make your quotas. Harassing TE’s n PTFs into the ground bringing them lunches so they will work through theirs, intimidating clerks into working faster. S___ flows downhill, so now pms are getting it, the craft will get browbeaten next.

]]> By: Postmaster Jim http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-140458 Postmaster Jim Sun, 08 Nov 2009 14:23:39 +0000 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/?p=1717#comment-140458 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l47Xxq3GGt4 Watch the video the PMG doesn't want you to see. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l47Xxq3GGt4

Watch the video the PMG doesn’t want you to see.

]]> By: Bill http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-140180 Bill Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:46:56 +0000 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/?p=1717#comment-140180 I agree that the VOE is a useless piece of paper. For 15 years, I have never seen one ounce of change come from anything written in those surveys. Money could be better spent elsewhere than paying a company for this service. As far as dignity and respect, craft people have NO IDEA how their PM's get treated. If we treated you like we are treated, you would be filing EEO complaints, grievances, asking for employee interventions, all the tools you use to get back at management when you are told to "do your job". I have been witness to my PM getting berated on telecon's, sworn at, called useless, called a horrible PM and been given direct orders to discipline supervisors who did nothing wrong but "just because someone has to take the fall". And most of the time, when the truth came out about what the POOM believed were the "numbers" that my PM was being berated for, the numbers were incorrect. When the PM tried to give his side of the story as to why the numbers were skewed, the POOM would just tell him he was making excuses and refused to listen. This is typical, all the time. And the POOM will NEVER say they were wrong. I agree that the VOE is a useless piece of paper. For 15 years, I have never seen one ounce of change come from anything written in those surveys. Money could be better spent elsewhere than paying a company for this service. As far as dignity and respect, craft people have NO IDEA how their PM’s get treated. If we treated you like we are treated, you would be filing EEO complaints, grievances, asking for employee interventions, all the tools you use to get back at management when you are told to “do your job”. I have been witness to my PM getting berated on telecon’s, sworn at, called useless, called a horrible PM and been given direct orders to discipline supervisors who did nothing wrong but “just because someone has to take the fall”. And most of the time, when the truth came out about what the POOM believed were the “numbers” that my PM was being berated for, the numbers were incorrect. When the PM tried to give his side of the story as to why the numbers were skewed, the POOM would just tell him he was making excuses and refused to listen. This is typical, all the time. And the POOM will NEVER say they were wrong.

]]> By: anonymous http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-139984 anonymous Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:05:40 +0000 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/?p=1717#comment-139984 I guess I will also have to stop completing the surveys of my employees who refuse to do theirs. I was getting tired of completing all those surveys every year anyways. I guess I will also have to stop completing the surveys of my employees who refuse to do theirs. I was getting tired of completing all those surveys every year anyways.

]]> By: Postal1959 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-139324 Postal1959 Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:14:30 +0000 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/?p=1717#comment-139324 VOE is used just like every other statistic in the Post Office. All thay want is the "good" numbers to show how well they are doing when compared to other districts. That's all we ever hear from the results is we have the best VOE stats in the SE Area, blah, blah, blah. We even have to be counceled or watch a video from the DM before we can take it. I've never heard of a single issue addressed on a VOE that has led to a change in anything. The VOE program rates right up there with the Mystery Shopper Program. VOE is used just like every other statistic in the Post Office. All thay want is the “good” numbers to show how well they are doing when compared to other districts. That’s all we ever hear from the results is we have the best VOE stats in the SE Area, blah, blah, blah. We even have to be counceled or watch a video from the DM before we can take it. I’ve never heard of a single issue addressed on a VOE that has led to a change in anything. The VOE program rates right up there with the Mystery Shopper Program.

]]> By: A 204-B http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-139301 A 204-B Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:59:24 +0000 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/?p=1717#comment-139301 Why do you continue to bash management? They have a job to do, just like craft employees do. Craft employees have no idea of the work load of management. I have done almost every job in the Postal Service. I have been a Rural Carrier, a Letter Carrier and a Clerk. I have also been a Bulk Mail Clerk. I am now working as a 204-B. I did my job in every aspect of the Postal Service. I am proud of how I handled myself in each and every position that I have held. I and only I can make my job better. My attitude and my selfworth. I have done every craft job except Mail Handler, and I could turn around and do those same jobs today or tommorrow. Can the same be said of craft being able to do management's job? I will gladly change jobs with anyone of you any day. Just make sure that everything that I must do each and every day is done before you go home, and by the way, you only get paid for 8 hours even if you are here 12. I take pride in the job I do. Yes, I am here to make money, but I am also here to do my job, whatever that job may be. I am here soon after the first person who comes in is here and I am always here until my carriers are back from the street. I know for a fact that there is not a single person in my office that is here longer or works harder than I do. If all of us would give 110% than there would not be the issues that I keep reading here. Don't think I am bashing craft because I am not. Almost everyone in my office is the same. They come in and give 8 hours of work for 8 hours of pay. Then they give more if needed. We help each other and we try to make everyone's day a little easier in whatever way we can. However, 1 or 2 people can ruin it all, and has. That 1 or 2 people can be management or they can be craft. Once again, it is the PEOPLE that make the difference, not whether they are management or craft. Why do you continue to bash management? They have a job to do, just like craft employees do. Craft employees have no idea of the work load of management. I have done almost every job in the Postal Service. I have been a Rural Carrier, a Letter Carrier and a Clerk. I have also been a Bulk Mail Clerk. I am now working as a 204-B. I did my job in every aspect of the Postal Service. I am proud of how I handled myself in each and every position that I have held. I and only I can make my job better. My attitude and my selfworth. I have done every craft job except Mail Handler, and I could turn around and do those same jobs today or tommorrow. Can the same be said of craft being able to do management’s job? I will gladly change jobs with anyone of you any day. Just make sure that everything that I must do each and every day is done before you go home, and by the way, you only get paid for 8 hours even if you are here 12. I take pride in the job I do. Yes, I am here to make money, but I am also here to do my job, whatever that job may be. I am here soon after the first person who comes in is here and I am always here until my carriers are back from the street. I know for a fact that there is not a single person in my office that is here longer or works harder than I do. If all of us would give 110% than there would not be the issues that I keep reading here. Don’t think I am bashing craft because I am not. Almost everyone in my office is the same. They come in and give 8 hours of work for 8 hours of pay. Then they give more if needed. We help each other and we try to make everyone’s day a little easier in whatever way we can. However, 1 or 2 people can ruin it all, and has. That 1 or 2 people can be management or they can be craft. Once again, it is the PEOPLE that make the difference, not whether they are management or craft.

]]> By: allen sanford http://www.postalnewsblog.com/2009/10/13/postmasters-to-boycott-voice-of-the-employee-survey/comment-page-1/#comment-139300 allen sanford Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:46:23 +0000 http://www.postalnewsblog.com/?p=1717#comment-139300 During the 70's,80's and 90's postal rates were inflated to justify the implementation of mail processing equipment.Lower level maintenance employees were required to perform higher level work,sometimes dangerous work,under threat of termination and without training.The post office has supplied private companies with the equipment used to process the mail,now they are closing mail processing facilities and letting the full time clerks and carriers go.Put the managers and postal officials on contract along with the mass mailers who deal with advertising mail.If they can't make a profit terminate the contract and get some new managers.Put the post office on the stock exchange and let the clerks and carriers be the primary stock holders along with the public. During the 70′s,80′s and 90′s postal rates were inflated to justify the implementation of mail processing equipment.Lower level maintenance employees were required to perform higher level work,sometimes dangerous work,under threat of termination and without training.The post office has supplied private companies with the equipment used to process the mail,now they are closing mail processing facilities and letting the full time clerks and carriers go.Put the managers and postal officials on contract along with the mass mailers who deal with advertising mail.If they can’t make a profit terminate the contract and get some new managers.Put the post office on the stock exchange and let the clerks and carriers be the primary stock holders along with the public.

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