“Pay for Performance” not performing this year
TweetIn a letter posted on the web site of the National Association of Postal Supervisors, USPS Human Resources VP Anthony Vegliante has admitted that the USPS Pay for Performance program will not accurately reflect the contributions of supervisors, postmasters and managers for the fiscal year just ended.
Citing the economic downturn, Vegliante warns that the USPS may end the year with “a corporate NPA score for which the adjective rating would be non-contributor. Employees who worked diligently and contributed to the organizations performance may receive an end of year rating of 3 or less and a personal adjective rating of non-contributor.”
The only solution offered for the program’s failure is the option for evaluators to change the adjective rating of employees receiving a PFP score of 1, 2, or 3 to “contributor”. The score would not change, and the employee would not receive an increase in salary. “This is each evaluator’s decision based solely on the overall performance of the employee throughout the year.”
October 14th, 2009 06:59
Those INCOMPETENT POSTAL MANAGERS should get a bonus based on their worth to the USPS which would be 1 cents!!
October 14th, 2009 07:36
from what i see of management and what ive been told by 204b manager’s only work for 2 hours or less a day and read or gossip the rest of the day. so i say only pay them what they earn 2 hours pay then send them home.
October 14th, 2009 08:21
Management, not the economy or lack of mail, is what got us into this mess we are in. Any other company doing as badly as we are would immediately get rid of their management and replace them with those who know what they are doing. We are cutting all areas of service, which is all we have to offer, while the ranks of 100,000 or so managers have not really been reduced. We could lose 50,000 of them and not even notice, and save billions in salaries and more with reduced utilities and leases. Pay for Performance??? That is a slap in customer’s faces when we are a non-performer.
October 14th, 2009 08:30
I am always amazed to read a “Reply” bashing postal management; but know first hand, from a post office with over 300 employees that very few, if any, ever raised their hand when management opportunities were available.
With individuals from the craft purporting to have such great work ethics (which many do) and they could substantially increase their “high-three” for retirement, I could never understand why more didn’t join the ranks of management and strive to change the work environment.
Perhaps, they realize that most postal managers certainly can’t get away with working only 2 hours a day and that the pay isn’t even close or worth, the daily stress that goes with most management jobs. Specifically, those positions that require the direct supervision of craft employees or have the responsibility of a larger office.
For those who think that a postal management job is easy – I would strongly recommend that they “try it on for size.”
October 14th, 2009 09:54
In response to Mary there are @54,000 mgrs, supv, pm’s of the approx 635,000 total employees! With close to 10% unemployment nationwide obviously the economy not to mention electronic communications has impacted the USPS, FEDEX, and UPS. Wake up the crafts have always blamed mgmt and never take any accountability! If things go wrong its mgmt if things go right its the craft.
October 14th, 2009 10:12
4 Recently (very happily) Retired.
the reason no will step up and be in management is that management does NOT want people who will make a difference.
in my 38 years I have seen a few who have tried to make a difference and it only brought them heart attacks!
October 14th, 2009 10:15
It’s not that management is an easy job. Nobody wants it because it’s a sleazy job. Most craft employees would rather do what they are doing instead of spending all die lying, cheating and kissing a@@.
October 14th, 2009 10:49
and they won’t let mngrs manage they are nothing but mindless robots made that way from being micro managed from the top. they are not allowed to make there own decisions or run there own offices
October 14th, 2009 10:53
I agree with norm. craft needs to jion the team and the ones who always down grade management and take cheap shots are usually the employees that don’t care and their work shows it. Did you ever notice the unions represent the same people over and over again.
October 14th, 2009 11:44
“Did you ever notice the unions represent the same people over and over again?”
Yup, I sure do notice the unions represent the same people. Every craft employee gets represented by the union every single day. Whether on the clock or off the clock. Retired or not retired. Even scabs are represented. Carriers and clerks earn our pay raises the hard way. We earn them. We don’t get raises by using convoluted formulas based on dishonesty and a lack of respect on the workroom floor.
October 14th, 2009 11:59
Craft always claims no to need management but as soon as their paycheck isn’t right, or need more rubber bands, or their vehicle is broken down, another employee said something about them, or they have an accident, or a customer threatens them, or someone constantly blocks a box, or there is no toilet paper, or they ran out of sick leave and need help requesting donations…etc…etc…etc you come right to me for help. My job consists of taking care of you.
It’s really easy to say what you would do if you were in my position but very few actually take the step. Anyone can mock so please don’t consider yourself smarter than anyone else because you can type. Talk is cheap. Step up or shut up.
October 14th, 2009 12:02
Recently (very happily) Retired
October 14th, 2009 08:30
I am always amazed to read a “Reply” bashing postal management; but know first hand, from a post office with over 300 employees that very few, if any, ever raised their hand when management opportunities were available
And that’s because they know they’ll be sent to brain wash school and end up a vegetable like you!
October 14th, 2009 12:06
My paycheck doesn’t accurately reflect my contribution to the agency either. Perhaps the managers need to decide if the salary they are receiving is sufficient or if they need to look elsewhere for employment. I’m sure corporate America will be beating the doors down of these uneducated managers with a proven track record of operating in the red and poor management-labor relations.
October 14th, 2009 12:19
In other words management will change what the numbers mean so that they can say they are doing a good job? So when dois says I am short can I change it to mean I am over so it suits me! Give me a break.
October 14th, 2009 12:43
It’s clear that the unions want to follow in the foot steps of the UAW. The UWA almost killed the auto industry in the 70′s when they demanded a larger piece of the pie and to do less for it. The Postal Unions have the same view with demanding a larger piece of the pie, while doing less.
Come on folks when the curtain comes down, management and the unions will both be out of work and there will be enough blame for us all.
How about a new concept, one that we stop pointing fingers and give an honest days work. We all need to do more and we all need to understand that with the deficets we will be running for the unforeseeable future, could put us all in that unemployment line with our niegbors. We have one of the best employers in the country and we all know it.
Focus folks on what will make us better and that is simply quality service at a reasonable price. Do all you can every day and help each other to keep this ship right side up.
October 14th, 2009 14:12
Way to go Haywood. Thanks for proving my point. Name calling and every reason in the world why you wouldn’t want to be in management. You left off the fact that you are comfortable just sitting back, critiquing everyone else’s work without actually stepping up and taking responsibility for a decision you make. You really don’t get it.
October 14th, 2009 16:00
Recently Retired,
Thanks for actually stating that most craft employees do a good job. Most managers are happy degrading their fellow employees, craft or not. I have seen few employees enter management with the desire to make things better ( except for themselves ). The very few that even try to make things better are often thwarted by their direct manager. As far as stress goes, the front line supervisors in our office who are actually competent have plenty of time to perform their work, take numerous smoke breaks, work on word jumbles and crossword puzzles, and talk on their personal cell phones to friends and family for hours. You are correct in stating that the pay increase from craft to management is not enough to entice most employees to switch sides, so to speak. I would attribute this to the realization by most employees that money isn’t everything, and that change and improvement in the post office is ( almost ) impossible.
Hey Mike,
I applaud your realization that your job is to take care of your employees. So many in management don’t even come close to realizing this. And, you’re right, talk is cheap. Managements primary job is to take care of the employees, because the employees take care of management. That mail isn’t going to deliver itself, someone has to hit the street and sling it into the boxes. As for Haywood, I don’t see how someone NOT wanting to become management is not taking responsibility for this decision. They live with the results of this decision every day. For all the comments you make as the result of Haywood writing ONE original sentence, I think you are a bit sensitive. Again, I have seen PLENTY of craft employees attempt to “step up” into management, only to be STEPPED ON by management. What an incentive, become management, and be put between a rock and a hard place. Mike, you may be doing your best, but I am sure you have been frustrated and thwarted many times by upper management ( if you haven’t yet, just wait, you will ! ). What sane human would trade a job they ( at least somewhat ) enjoy, for one in management they are sure to hate? Over and over again I have seen management fail to give support to their fellow and subordinate management employees, and this filters down to the craft employees. What a system. It doesn’t have to be this way, I have seen and experienced much better working conditions, and wish they hadn’t left on that boat to China or truck to Mexico. Good luck Mike, you are going to need it.
October 14th, 2009 16:07
If you were doing your “job” Mike, they wouldn’t be out of rubber bands or toilet paper, and a customer’s box not be continually blocked. The reason most carriers don’t go for management jobs is because it would be a step down for them. “Managers” are on the bottom of the totem pole. People that can, do, people that can’t, manage.
October 14th, 2009 16:26
Easy to be a critic. Smart postal workers who think managing an overly unionized and under motivated workforce is easy should take their work ethics, brains, and energy out into the private sector where they can earn untold millions with their abilities.
Oh, I forgot. In the private sector you may make millions, but you will be held accountable, may get fired, laid off, or just ignored. Never mind, now I know why many postal employees’ families have been in, and badmouthing, the post office for 3 or more generations.
If it’s so bad in the usps, maybe all the smart, hard working folks should try Free Enterprise!
October 14th, 2009 17:52
management is political if you know someone you get ahead. it is not knowledge that gets you promoted or a good job assignment. manangers have their favorite employees or friends and the freinds do not have to work. the other employees have to pick up the pace.where else in this job market can you get a big salary job without a college education the usps
October 14th, 2009 19:54
We are all in this boat together. There are bad apples in every barrel. Get rid of them. I’ve had great managers and some that are only “trying to get somewhre. (reports numbers etc) forget customer service or a “responsible work environment. I have a bachelor’s degree in Mngmt. But have no desire to go into the USPS mngmt. Why ??? can’t The Co. listen to the people on the front lines? We know the customers, we know what they want, We know how to do our jobs the most efficiently way. We want to keep our jobs we’re invested too!
October 14th, 2009 21:32
i believe we should mandate anyone with more than 30 years to retire now and if they still want to work to go get a job.
October 15th, 2009 08:58
I’ve been with the USPS over 5 years, worked over 30 in manufacturing until the plant was closed. The USPS as it is today, would not last 3 months in the real world because of their “miss” management. 30%, good managers, 70% not worth even rating. The union has it’s bad apples also, but not nearly as bad, 85% good , 15% should be fired. The managers
don’t even try to lead, they just worry about bonuses and going up the ladder.
October 15th, 2009 21:12
You craft people crack me up. All you lazy stiffs need the union. Always complaining about how hard your route it is. I bet some of you do not have 300 deliveries and justify staying out on the street and stealing from the Post Office. I was a carrier for 12 years and had had enough of the union’s bullcrap, just representing all the lazy no good workers, carriers not coming to work, calling out sick. How does that hurt mgmt? It hurts your fellow carriers, but you lazy pieces of crap don’t care about your fellow carriers.
So I went into management and I have the best 21 carriers in the country hands down. They all act and perform their jobs in professional manner, our office has not had a MVA in 10 years, our office sick leave is less than 1.6%.
When the VOE comes out, under diginity and respect, supervisors have not received a score less than 95%.
So, I must be doing something right.
If you lazy worthless craft people did not have a union behind your, trust me, you all would be bounced out of the USPS.
All my carriers have over 500 deliveries, some even over 600 deliveries and manage to get back on time everyday, unless there are some unforeseen circumstances.
So stop blaming mgmt for everything and you’ll have to check yourself and ask yourself are you just dogging it?
Easy to blame mgmt, but none of you knuckle heads want to step up.
So all you idiots that say we are at the bottom of a totem up, you are ignorant.
October 15th, 2009 22:44
Let me tell you arrogant PM’s and Sups something. I went into management as a Svs customer services. It was the biggest mistake of my Postal career. Going into Postal management is a deal with the devil. You are saying yes to money, no to people. You are throwing away common decency and turning to corruption. Be prepared to lie a lot, be prepared to hate and treat people less then human. If my oh so wise superiors would have allowed me to manage my way, actually
treating people human, promoting teamwork, rewarding extra effort, a place where people come to work together.
IDIOTS !
MANAGEMENT BY INTIMIDATION ALWAYS FAILS.
October 16th, 2009 03:20
“Jarhead” wrote, “Easy to be a critic. Smart postal workers who think managing an overly unionized and under motivated workforce is easy”.
“overly unionized”? To that I say good. The more overly unionized the better to protect ourselves from un-scrupulous management pricks.
October 16th, 2009 14:20
Mail Boy, I appreciate your comments. I’ve been in management for close to 20 years. Sometimes you can make a good difference and other times you are the one who gets to deliver the bad news. I realized a long time ago that my job is to take care of the employees. My office is full of mediorce to great people. There are about 3 that I would love to get rid of but am unable because of the union. This is very frustrating for me and the other employees. I’ve learned to live with it.
Many in craft really think we have the power to fire bad employees but we don’t. That’s too bad becuase the bad empolyees really bring a unit down.
I also understand that frustrated employees like to bash management on this site because it is a safe way of venting. I really hope management isn’t hated as much as it sounds on this site. I know we’re not at my office.
I should probably just stop reading these comments.
October 16th, 2009 21:42
to recently retired ….. your high three doesnt inculude overtime you must be in mangement?
October 17th, 2009 12:22
Pay for performance…what a joke!! That should also include a reduction in salary for managers who can’t schedule, supervise or otherwise provide positive reinforcement for our staff! Allowing employees to “just get by” while the rest of us pick up the slack. Favoritism…good golly ms. molly…can u say rampid?
Give us a break on those pay for performance issues…
October 17th, 2009 13:28
dangellardfool- since when does a union employee earn there raises??? makes me wonder what your taking. union employees do not earn their raises, its bargined for in the CBA. do you even know what this is…. geee, every raise received does not matter if you a great worker or someone like you who probably screws the service every chance he gets, gets a raise after a predetermined span of time has gone by. Oh btw what work did you do to “EARN” the COLA that you receive as well?? As for supervisors we have no choice but to work in order to get a raise. we don’t even get COLA. sure there are those out there that lie, cheat to “make the numbers” but there are others who do the job because the money is not important and they put their people first. there are several employees under me that deserve more because of their work ethic and service to their customers but because of Your union I can’t provide them more than a Thank You because god forbid I might upset the useless worker that Your union protects from getting fired. And unlike you that will get a raise regardless of your work performance, I probably will not get a raise. am I bitching about it, not at all. I did not get promoted into management because of the money but to get away for the union bs
October 17th, 2009 13:29
Wow! I was the local union steward for 6 years, now I have been an acting 204-B for 2 years. There are good people in management and bad. However, the same goes for craft. I have seen 1 bad craft employee turn a really good office into shambles because they only care about themselves. I have been on both sides of the street and I could do both. I am proud of the job I have done in management but I am also proud of the job I did as craft. Once again, I do not belive that management is lazy and out to get craft. Perhaps, some management is that way, however so is craft. It comes down to the people and who you are as a person. If you believe in hard work and giving 8 hours of work for 8 hours of pay, then that is what you will do whether you are in management or craft. If you are just working for the Postal Service because it pays well and you can do whatever you want, then that is how you will be. Stop bashing each other. If we want a job to retire from, we all have to start working together. Management is not going to get a raise this year because of the pay for performance does not work in this economy. That doesn’t mean that they do or do not deserve it. Some do, some don’t. Craft and management is not getting cost of living this year because of the economy. We are lucky, every one of us to have our jobs. In the “real world” it is very hard to find a job out there right now. I am glad to be a craft employee who is also working in management. I am glad that I have the job I have and hope to have it 20 years from now. I have already been here 15. I know that if everyone does not open their eyes and work together, that I won’t have a job at the Postal Service in 20 years. Stop wasting your time blaming everyone else. Step up to the plate and do what you can to make this a better place to work. Each and every one of us!
October 17th, 2009 17:31
The Pay for Performance is based on what kind of job the “Craft” ie…. Clerks, Mail Handlers and Letter Carriers do. Basically the Supervisor gets rated on their employees work performance. So why don’t we quit pointing fingers as to who “does a crap job or is worthless” and all take responsibility for the job that is being done. If the Carrier doesn’t scan that Express and/or deliver it by the guarantee time they aren’t doing their job. In turn if the Supervisor doesn’t discuss it with them then they aren’t doing their job. If the Retail Associate doesn’t “up sell” an item during a Mystery Shop then they aren’t doing their job….. the list could go on and so can the finger pointing and the comments of hatred that I have read so far. So go ahead and bash me because I do what I do, just remember you do what you do and I’ll still respect you for that, we all have decisions to make as to what is “best” for us so don’t knock the other persons choice unless you want yours knocked.
October 17th, 2009 19:45
Thank you “One of Them.” You hit the nail on the head. Management doesn’t get colas and contractual increases like bargaining unit. Most are exempt from OT and put in extra hours without monetary compensation. Being a lousy employee is not something exclusive to managment. There are plenty of crafty craft employees that abuse sick leave, FMLA, OT and file grievances for the fun of it. The haters love to throw stones, but they aren’t willing to offer any real leadership by stepping up to the plate, so their comments are worthless.
October 19th, 2009 16:02
I don’t have a problem with management in our local offices…they are only doing what they are being told to do, just like us. My problem is with the idiots in the Area Offices that are killing the PO. These are the people who couldn’t make as craft employees, always getting in trouble…got promoted into management, the Postal way…promote your problems…. still caused problems on a local level, then got promoted to Area positions. These people who have no idea how to actually do our jobs are making the rules and standards we have to follow.
October 19th, 2009 23:01
I have been a Postal Supervisor -204 b for about 22 years and I have seen it all on both sides some of you where right about one blaming the other. But how many of you have put in 8 hrs of work for 8 hours of pay, I know there are some of the workforce that does this and more but it few and far between. Just what are the crafts welling to do to help the postal service survive the drop in mail volume, just curious how many postal employees pay there bills online taken money out of there on pocket how many good things have you said about the company that paid for your house and out you children thru school. I know you worked for it but how many actually put in 8 hrs for 8 hrs how many take extra time on breaks then when something doesn’t go your way run to the union for help..The unions that a whole different story if we didn’t have them boy would this be a different POST OFFICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 20th, 2009 06:32
I think it is a shame that in a year when the Postmaster General received a 39% increase, along with a healthy increase for his vice presidents, that the postal people who actually do the work are told they are noncontributors.
October 21st, 2009 16:47
The one place the USPS grew was in the home office (Washington D.C.) BIG FAT PAYCHECKS!
USPS EMPLOYEE STATISTICS FROM 2000 – 2008
2000 2009 -/+ Percentage
USPS Headquarters 2279 2811 +19%
USPS Field Support 5566 4429 -20%
Inspection Service (Field) 4190 2617 -37%
Inspector General 664 1155 +42%
USPS HEADQUARTERS TOTALS 12699 11012 -13.29%
Postmasters (Installation Heads) 26121 23672 -9%
Supervisors / Managers 38797 28812 -26%
USPS SUPERVISORY TOTALS 64918 52484 -19.16%
Tech Personal 9959 6460 -35%
Clerks 281956 177842 -37%
Nurses 191 134 -30%
Mail Handlers 60851 52954 -13%
City Carriers 241079 200658 -17%
Motor Vehicle 9347 8113 -13%
Rural Carriers 57111 67749 +16%
Maintenance 42284 39531 -7%
Vehicle Maintenance 5546 5252 -5%
USPS CAREER CRAFT EMPLOYEES TOTALS 708324 558693 -21.13%
October 22nd, 2009 01:52
Retired1
but you weren’t even worth a penny
October 22nd, 2009 15:29
i was a supervisor, and I got fired. 8 months later i still recieved a $3500 raise.
October 23rd, 2009 16:54
Performance !!!! Bahumbug !!! Many of our supv and/or 204b wereand are some of our worse workers !!! Then they get promoted !! Now management has to deal with these inefficient slugs that were our coworkers !! Perform , hell they usually didnt show up for work and if they did it was not much better than if they had not show up !!! micro managers ?? now theres a can of worms !! Higher ups have no faith in their incompetent supervisors so they must micro manage or they are incompetent themselves !!! No matter how bad management screws up they get their incentive pay on our backs !!! Take money away from prefunding retirement !!! How bout taking money away from politicians who own or lease properties to US post office !!! Ribicoff did as well as many others for decades under the facade of legit real estate transactions !!! Why then do they come up with fictitious business names ???? Wheres the IRS when these false reports for income on a business that doesn’t exist ???
No wonder why the public trust the post office so much !!! If you tell a lie long enough to yourself you may believe it too ???
November 2nd, 2009 08:43
We have several carriers who do a good job in my office but there are many slugs also. But in the big picture, supervisors are babysitters. The carrier and clerk craft is filled with nothing but a bunch of babies. I’ve never seen a place where adults act like such little kids than in the post office. I worked in the private sector for more than 10 years before I started my career in the post office and it is a sad commentary that these people actually complain that they are overworked and underpaid. $50k to deliver the mail? How many people in this economy would kill for a job like that? And they take it for granted and complain all day long that they had to work through their 10 minute break today, when, for the past week, they took 30 minute breaks. They forget about the easier days and only remember when they have to step it up. Bitch, moan and complain is their mantra. I will not feel the least bit bad when they lose their jobs when the post office goes under. I, too, will lose my job, but being a manager for many years, I will be employable. For the rest of you, I’ll take fries with that!
November 4th, 2009 14:28
Bill,
You are right, there are many spoiled people in the USPS, BUT
you forgot to mention the managers or should I say Mis-managers. I too, worked in the private sector not long ago and when you’re on the outside looking in, the USPS is truly a blessing. God has blessed me for getting this job. At least half of the USPS managers should be fired, they can’t do their own job, much less manage employees. The unions need to get their stuff together also, all the lazies (management and wageroll) need to go! 50% of these managers could not even get your order right at the fast food place.
November 8th, 2009 10:10
in response to norm, you have it backwards. management is the problem, they brake the contract on a daily basis by the minute to get the numbers they need to make them look good. they force carriers into unwanted ot but want you back by 5pm. if you start at 7:30am, do a 8hr route get 90 minutes on another route and tell you to take your lunch and or your 2 10minute brakes at the end of the day so you can be back at by 5. do the math, your still on the clock past 5. we as carriers pick up after management every day. to fix this problem they need to start the mail proccessing procedure at 9pm not 11pm. that would give time to deliver what’s needed by 5pm. seems easy to me but that would be to much like work fixing a problem they created.that would admit guilt to mis-management. as far as their stress level. they deal with the same problems day after day. call offs,( we get tired too, not from sitting like management )vehicle breakdowns, customer complaints getting their mail late in the day we have bosses delivering x-press mail. they take 4,5 maybe 6 pieces and take 2-3 hrs delivering those. were is their accountability for time used to work done.
November 8th, 2009 22:55
I think they should get a little bonus because of all the ot they give me on a daily basis. Nothing better than going into a business and having to finger mail for 16 businesses because the numbers have to look good for DPS. Don’t take the 5 mins it takes to case it but take 30 mins overtime going to every business going through the same mail each time. I love it
November 17th, 2009 05:48
I get so tired of all the Postal Service bashing. All of you who are not satisfied working for the Postal Service should tender your resignations by noon tomorrow. No one went out and recruited you to come to the USPS to work. Each of you took the examination and watched the mailbox eagerly awaiting and praying the Service would get to your name on the register. What have you personally done to make an improvement in your workplace? Someone said it best -put up or shut up.
By the way, before you submit those resignations, examine your qualifications to make sure you can compete for one of those many jobs in the private sector that compare with the very generous salaries you’re earning with the organization you’re constantly bad mouthing. Good luck.
November 19th, 2009 08:01
There will always be those that blame management for all the problems this world has to offer. There are sorry managers and there are sorry craft employees. Not every one in management is a liar or cheater or schemer. Its easy to set on the sidelines and say what you would do if you were in management. Here’s a fact management never has and never will bother employees that come to work and does the job they are paid to do. It’s those that dont come to work or do the job they signed on to do that makes managers necessary at all. Craft employees stand by and watch their co-workers do less than a good job and yet when a supv trys to correct them it’s the supv whose the bad guy. On the other hand if the supv does nothing that same co-worker complains that the supv is not doing his/her job. As far as raises go you can be the worst of the worst carrier/clerk or other craft employee, but you still will get you scheduled raises along with the employees that come to work does a good job. supv’s ,Mgrs are measured on individual basis based on job performance. When your contract is signed its signed for all within that craft the good, the bad and the ugly. I agree step up or shut up
November 26th, 2009 16:25
I get so sick and tired of the postal mgmt bashing that goes on. It is so ridiculous!!! I am 38 years old and have been a legitimate supervisor for about 7 years. The craft is just as equal if not worse at being angry, bitter, lying, lazy and cheating people within this organization. Some of my fellow sups are crazier than all outdoors but most do care. The ones who are crazy have allowed the messiness of the craft to drive them there. Personally, I go out of my way to help craft but it is never enough. I have employees that clock in and disappear, go sleep in their cars,(then have the nerve to look at you like you crazy when you catch them). Purposefully sabotage the mail, slow down on the machines and mail casing. I have known employees who abuse FMLA and sick leave to go the clubs instead of coming to work. I know craft who have lied on EEO’s, and sexual harassment claims- mad at a sup because they couldn’t get their way.etc etc., You name you all will do it!! See the craft spends so much time bashing us to cover up for their foulness. One thing you must remember supervisors don’t work the mail craft do. If you see mgmt breaking contract and working that’s because craft wont do what they are being paid to do. I agree with the comment that mgmt does not bother employees who come to work and do their jobs. WE DON’T. Management only tries to correct the slackers. OH!!! but if we do then the craft gangs up on us and say we are picking and harassing. On the same note if we don’t do anything then we are showing favoritism. See you all have a bureaucratic system to hide behind that is why a lot of you still have jobs. When postal sups walk in the door our goal is to service the customer–craft goal: let me do as little as possible to earn my $40,000-$50,000 paycheck. Those of you who bash mgmt I woluld bet my lofe you were one of those sorry sacks who thought the postal service owed you something.
December 12th, 2009 16:24
I came back here to see if my comment did any good. I see it didn’t. Bottom line: I would like to retire from the Postal Service, however I doubt I will. I am gratefull for my job. I probably won’t be able to get a job somewhere else making the same amount of money that I do here. I am smart, I know how to do my job, and believe it or not, I am fair to my employees. They of course don’t see it that way. I bite my tongue every day from comments that they make. Bottom Line: I can do their jobs, can they do mine? I also know at least 50 people who would bend over backwards for a job that pays what the Post Office does and the benefits it offers. They would be willing to come in and give me a 10 hour day for 8 hours of pay until they give into the crap that their fellow workers tell them. I am told I do nothing but sit on my butt everyday. Asked “how can you sleep at night”. I asked Rural Carriers how can you sleep when you work 6 hours 90% of the year and get paid for 8. Then when Christmas comes, you suddenly need 9 hours a day for the overttime? Carriers, you are taking the brunt of what is going on at the Post Office right now, however, just because you don’t get to take those hour lunches doesn’t mean I am the bad guy. I find it funny that whenever you have somewhere to go, you can finish your 8 hour route in 7. But if you want overttime, then a house to house becomes a 9 hour route. Clerks, when you stand and talk to the carriers about the party you were at last night for 20 minutes, don’t you think that just took care of both of your breaks? Don’t even talk to me about “working” through your break today. You took it when you wanted the office to know what you did last night. I once again am gratefull for my job. I am usually the 1st one here in the morning and the last one here at night. I get 8 hours of pay. That was my choice to take this job though. Just as it was your choice to take the job you took. I will be glad to continue to do this, as long as I am able to get 8 hours of pay, benefits and sick and annual leave! Where else would you get this? If you don’t like it, make another choice. Don’t like be a carrier, be a clerk. Don’t like being a clerk, try being a carrier. If you don’t like either one, the end of December is a test coming up to recruit Supervisors, take it. Become someone you bitch about and change the system. Otherwise shut up! Turn in your notice and watch how many line up for your job. Then you can bitch.