Comments on: “Pay for Performance” not performing this year

By: 204-b

204-b — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:24:12 +0000

I came back here to see if my comment did any good. I see it didn’t. Bottom line: I would like to retire from the Postal Service, however I doubt I will. I am gratefull for my job. I probably won’t be able to get a job somewhere else making the same amount of money that I do here. I am smart, I know how to do my job, and believe it or not, I am fair to my employees. They of course don’t see it that way. I bite my tongue every day from comments that they make. Bottom Line: I can do their jobs, can they do mine? I also know at least 50 people who would bend over backwards for a job that pays what the Post Office does and the benefits it offers. They would be willing to come in and give me a 10 hour day for 8 hours of pay until they give into the crap that their fellow workers tell them. I am told I do nothing but sit on my butt everyday. Asked “how can you sleep at night”. I asked Rural Carriers how can you sleep when you work 6 hours 90% of the year and get paid for 8. Then when Christmas comes, you suddenly need 9 hours a day for the overttime? Carriers, you are taking the brunt of what is going on at the Post Office right now, however, just because you don’t get to take those hour lunches doesn’t mean I am the bad guy. I find it funny that whenever you have somewhere to go, you can finish your 8 hour route in 7. But if you want overttime, then a house to house becomes a 9 hour route. Clerks, when you stand and talk to the carriers about the party you were at last night for 20 minutes, don’t you think that just took care of both of your breaks? Don’t even talk to me about “working” through your break today. You took it when you wanted the office to know what you did last night. I once again am gratefull for my job. I am usually the 1st one here in the morning and the last one here at night. I get 8 hours of pay. That was my choice to take this job though. Just as it was your choice to take the job you took. I will be glad to continue to do this, as long as I am able to get 8 hours of pay, benefits and sick and annual leave! Where else would you get this? If you don’t like it, make another choice. Don’t like be a carrier, be a clerk. Don’t like being a clerk, try being a carrier. If you don’t like either one, the end of December is a test coming up to recruit Supervisors, take it. Become someone you bitch about and change the system. Otherwise shut up! Turn in your notice and watch how many line up for your job. Then you can bitch.

By: Gina

Gina — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 21:25:34 +0000

I get so sick and tired of the postal mgmt bashing that goes on. It is so ridiculous!!! I am 38 years old and have been a legitimate supervisor for about 7 years. The craft is just as equal if not worse at being angry, bitter, lying, lazy and cheating people within this organization. Some of my fellow sups are crazier than all outdoors but most do care. The ones who are crazy have allowed the messiness of the craft to drive them there. Personally, I go out of my way to help craft but it is never enough. I have employees that clock in and disappear, go sleep in their cars,(then have the nerve to look at you like you crazy when you catch them). Purposefully sabotage the mail, slow down on the machines and mail casing. I have known employees who abuse FMLA and sick leave to go the clubs instead of coming to work. I know craft who have lied on EEO’s, and sexual harassment claims- mad at a sup because they couldn’t get their way.etc etc., You name you all will do it!! See the craft spends so much time bashing us to cover up for their foulness. One thing you must remember supervisors don’t work the mail craft do. If you see mgmt breaking contract and working that’s because craft wont do what they are being paid to do. I agree with the comment that mgmt does not bother employees who come to work and do their jobs. WE DON’T. Management only tries to correct the slackers. OH!!! but if we do then the craft gangs up on us and say we are picking and harassing. On the same note if we don’t do anything then we are showing favoritism. See you all have a bureaucratic system to hide behind that is why a lot of you still have jobs. When postal sups walk in the door our goal is to service the customer–craft goal: let me do as little as possible to earn my $40,000-$50,000 paycheck. Those of you who bash mgmt I woluld bet my lofe you were one of those sorry sacks who thought the postal service owed you something.

By: JT Plumber

JT Plumber — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:01:05 +0000

There will always be those that blame management for all the problems this world has to offer. There are sorry managers and there are sorry craft employees. Not every one in management is a liar or cheater or schemer. Its easy to set on the sidelines and say what you would do if you were in management. Here’s a fact management never has and never will bother employees that come to work and does the job they are paid to do. It’s those that dont come to work or do the job they signed on to do that makes managers necessary at all. Craft employees stand by and watch their co-workers do less than a good job and yet when a supv trys to correct them it’s the supv whose the bad guy. On the other hand if the supv does nothing that same co-worker complains that the supv is not doing his/her job. As far as raises go you can be the worst of the worst carrier/clerk or other craft employee, but you still will get you scheduled raises along with the employees that come to work does a good job. supv’s ,Mgrs are measured on individual basis based on job performance. When your contract is signed its signed for all within that craft the good, the bad and the ugly. I agree step up or shut up

By: Luv2USPS

Luv2USPS — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:48:19 +0000

I get so tired of all the Postal Service bashing. All of you who are not satisfied working for the Postal Service should tender your resignations by noon tomorrow. No one went out and recruited you to come to the USPS to work. Each of you took the examination and watched the mailbox eagerly awaiting and praying the Service would get to your name on the register. What have you personally done to make an improvement in your workplace? Someone said it best -put up or shut up.
By the way, before you submit those resignations, examine your qualifications to make sure you can compete for one of those many jobs in the private sector that compare with the very generous salaries you’re earning with the organization you’re constantly bad mouthing. Good luck.

By: Nobby

Nobby — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:55:41 +0000

I think they should get a little bonus because of all the ot they give me on a daily basis. Nothing better than going into a business and having to finger mail for 16 businesses because the numbers have to look good for DPS. Don’t take the 5 mins it takes to case it but take 30 mins overtime going to every business going through the same mail each time. I love it

By: craig

craig — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:10:51 +0000

in response to norm, you have it backwards. management is the problem, they brake the contract on a daily basis by the minute to get the numbers they need to make them look good. they force carriers into unwanted ot but want you back by 5pm. if you start at 7:30am, do a 8hr route get 90 minutes on another route and tell you to take your lunch and or your 2 10minute brakes at the end of the day so you can be back at by 5. do the math, your still on the clock past 5. we as carriers pick up after management every day. to fix this problem they need to start the mail proccessing procedure at 9pm not 11pm. that would give time to deliver what’s needed by 5pm. seems easy to me but that would be to much like work fixing a problem they created.that would admit guilt to mis-management. as far as their stress level. they deal with the same problems day after day. call offs,( we get tired too, not from sitting like management )vehicle breakdowns, customer complaints getting their mail late in the day we have bosses delivering x-press mail. they take 4,5 maybe 6 pieces and take 2-3 hrs delivering those. were is their accountability for time used to work done.

By: mountain boy

mountain boy — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:28:23 +0000

Bill,
You are right, there are many spoiled people in the USPS, BUT
you forgot to mention the managers or should I say Mis-managers. I too, worked in the private sector not long ago and when you’re on the outside looking in, the USPS is truly a blessing. God has blessed me for getting this job. At least half of the USPS managers should be fired, they can’t do their own job, much less manage employees. The unions need to get their stuff together also, all the lazies (management and wageroll) need to go! 50% of these managers could not even get your order right at the fast food place.

By: Bill

Bill — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:43:15 +0000

We have several carriers who do a good job in my office but there are many slugs also. But in the big picture, supervisors are babysitters. The carrier and clerk craft is filled with nothing but a bunch of babies. I’ve never seen a place where adults act like such little kids than in the post office. I worked in the private sector for more than 10 years before I started my career in the post office and it is a sad commentary that these people actually complain that they are overworked and underpaid. $50k to deliver the mail? How many people in this economy would kill for a job like that? And they take it for granted and complain all day long that they had to work through their 10 minute break today, when, for the past week, they took 30 minute breaks. They forget about the easier days and only remember when they have to step it up. Bitch, moan and complain is their mantra. I will not feel the least bit bad when they lose their jobs when the post office goes under. I, too, will lose my job, but being a manager for many years, I will be employable. For the rest of you, I’ll take fries with that!

By: jonah

jonah — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:54:51 +0000

Performance !!!! Bahumbug !!! Many of our supv and/or 204b wereand are some of our worse workers !!! Then they get promoted !! Now management has to deal with these inefficient slugs that were our coworkers !! Perform , hell they usually didnt show up for work and if they did it was not much better than if they had not show up !!! micro managers ?? now theres a can of worms !! Higher ups have no faith in their incompetent supervisors so they must micro manage or they are incompetent themselves !!! No matter how bad management screws up they get their incentive pay on our backs !!! Take money away from prefunding retirement !!! How bout taking money away from politicians who own or lease properties to US post office !!! Ribicoff did as well as many others for decades under the facade of legit real estate transactions !!! Why then do they come up with fictitious business names ???? Wheres the IRS when these false reports for income on a business that doesn’t exist ???
No wonder why the public trust the post office so much !!! If you tell a lie long enough to yourself you may believe it too ???

By: rob

rob — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:29:06 +0000

i was a supervisor, and I got fired. 8 months later i still recieved a $3500 raise.